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XtrackCad 3D
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Does XtrackCad support 3d views? if so how do I access my layout Drawing in 3d?
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Charles,
No we don't (directly). That's a lot of work and we have enough trouble getting it right in 2D!! I have also noted in the past -> if there is a developer out there who is sufficiently motivated.... I believe, however, that there is an importer to enable the XTrackCAD layout to be seen in another tool, however. One thing to note is that only the tracks have elevations. The Draw objects (lines, arcs, circles, etc) do not. Adam
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Robert Heller
At Mon, 03 Aug 2020 06:53:34 -0700 main@xtrackcad.groups.io wrote:
And nothing (even tracks) has a "Z" dimension. Even though tracks have an "elevation", the rails and ties themselves have no height. The code does not have a slot in the data structures to support anything like a three dimensional view that would have any hope of being realistic. To implement anything like that would require massive changes in the code. Note: since one can export selected item to DXF *AND* most 3D CAD programs can import DXF, that might be a starting place to produce a 3D representation. Another (totally random) idea: FreeCAD is a free and scriptable 3D CAD system, mostly written in Python. XTrakCAD files are text and well documented, so it really should be possible to write a FreeCAD/Python script to "import" XTrakCAD files into FreeCAD. It would require some help to deal with benchwork, rail and tie profile, and structures, etc. to create the inteneded 3D aspects. -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
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Hi Charles,
Xtrkcad does indeed not support 3D-views. However, there is a separate 3D viewer program available, called "Xtrkcad viewer". You can download it from http://mwik.altervista.org/ It offers a nice 3D view of your setup. You can switch off/on the various layers and rotate/zoom. The software is compatible with the latest beta-version of Xtrkcad (thanks to the programmer who reacted on my remark that the file format of Xtrkcad had slightly changed). As Robert Heller points out, there is no z-dimension in the track definition, so tracks will be displayed as flat objects in the viewer. Also objects like lines and circles are not shown in the 3D-view. I have attached an example of my own setup and 3D-view as an example. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Mats Wikström
Hi. You might want to try this little viewer I have created for XTrackCAD (Windows only). BR/MW
On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 11:27:09 AM GMT+2, Joost van der Waa <register@...> wrote:
Hi Charles, Xtrkcad does indeed not support 3D-views. However, there is a separate 3D viewer program available, called "Xtrkcad viewer". You can download it from http://mwik.altervista.org/ It offers a nice 3D view of your setup. You can switch off/on the various layers and rotate/zoom. The software is compatible with the latest beta-version of Xtrkcad (thanks to the programmer who reacted on my remark that the file format of Xtrkcad had slightly changed). As Robert Heller points out, there is no z-dimension in the track definition, so tracks will be displayed as flat objects in the viewer. Also objects like lines and circles are not shown in the 3D-view. I have attached an example of my own setup and 3D-view as an example. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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Mats Wikström
Maybee we could reuse some of my code.
I have a new draft version written in c++, it is fully open source and only depending on wxWidgets and standard lib.
It runs on an 10 year old computer with a GeForce GTX 1050 graphic card (Win10)
An OpenGL canvas and mouse event handler is needed if to replace wxWidgets and a c++ interface is needed to access data model.
So if anyone can help me, we could give it a try.
If it is of interest mail me on matswkstrm@... BR/MW
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Hi Mats, that looks like fun, will update to your latest Viewer soon as I can. Thank you for your contributions to this great system. Just a little note, at some time you need to fix up the forum link at the very bottom of that page. Now off to play in 3D.
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Mats, two problems: 1. I can't seem to get it to show me the view from the side. As soon as I try to head that way it scrolls off the screen. There is probably something simple that I am not doing correctly. 2. It isn't placing the tunnel sections over the track exactly in sync.
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 06:53, Ian <ilox11@...> wrote:
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Ooops, I had missed the instruction about using the RIGHT-Mouse Button to change the viewpoint. That worked for me. Interesting view. Many thanks.
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Hi together, I`m Pit from Cologne and I want to restart my Hobby.
First I want to complete my track layout by using xtrkcad. I want to see the layout in 3D and via Google I found in the wiki a reference to the software "rail3d". http://xtrkcad-fork.sourceforge.net/Wikka/ModellingIn3D http://www.rail3d.info/wiki/howto/layoutdesignwithxtrkcad.aspx?Lang=EN To use a xtrkcad file in rail3d you have to use a convertion tool "raild3dXTraktor". The links in the wiki doesen`t work, but I found: https://markhodson.nl/ Anyway, I found the tool rail3dXTraktor, but it doesn`t work. The output window shows only "TEXT 20000 20000 Origin", not more. Is there a solution to use rail3d? Thanks for support. Pit
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emrldsky
Hi Pit,
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I have used early versions of both, and still use both. Maybe, back in the days of the covered wagon when both tools were first being developed, there was some success at transferring the data into Rail3D. However, as time moved on both programs have undergone major revisions and upgrades, so the extractor that is downloadable will not bring any satisfaction. I believe the main issue is that the formats of the data files have both changed. The existing extractor does give a good framework, so if someone were so inclined, it could possibly be brought up to date. I am not sure if the source code is available. However, like many "re-dos" it would probably make more sense to start from scratch and start with a clear concept of what it was that was really wanted, then go from there, and compare both formats and consider the translation that would be needed to accomplish the goal. Peace, Mike G.
On 10/28/2020 4:34 AM, pit.com@...
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Hi Pit,
I tried to get the same results as you did using rail3d and ended up in the same dead end. The only 3d-viewer I know of is Xtrkviewer. You can download it from http://mwik.altervista.org/ Please note that Xtrackcad track are basically flat objects, so a 3D-view is rather limited compared to more sophisticated tools like Rail3d or Winrail. Joost
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Peter B.
Hi,
thanks for your infomation. I think it would be helpful for newbies, if the xtrkcad-wiki will be updated regarding this issue. Pit
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